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Orion Observer 80ST EQ Review – Not Recommended

Orion’s Observer 80ST may look like the old ShortTube 80, but in reality it’s a cheapened parody of the venerable telescope it replaced.

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For nearly three decades, Orion offered a telescope known as the ShortTube 80. This beloved instrument was an 80mm f/5 achromatic refractor in an all-metal tube with a solid, 2” rack-and-pinion focuser on the back. While not exactly known for having sharp high-power views, being a cheap short achromatic refractor, the ShortTube 80 gave fantastic low-power vistas of nebulae and star clusters, and found its place with many astronomers as a quick to set up “grab n’ go” telescope or travel telescope, as a finderscope on super-large Dobsonians, and as a guide scope for demanding astrophotographers.

Alas, while rebrands of it can be found (albeit with slightly cheaper and lower-quality 1.25” focusers), Orion no longer offers the ShortTube 80. Instead, they’ve replaced it with a telescope known as the “Observer 80ST”. Sadly, the new Observer 80ST is a mere shadow of the ShortTube 80 and is not even remotely comparable in quality.

Ranked 21st among 25 telescopes in $100 range
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Zhumell Z100
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Orion Skyscanner 100mm
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Orion Observer 80ST EQ
Not Recommended
 

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  • Wide field of view
  • Acceptable eyepieces
  • Decent aperture
  • Cheap
  • Poor optics
  • Ridiculously low build quality
  • Terrible finderscope
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Not Recommended Telescope

With a build quality that screams “toy” and not “useful instrument” and the resulting frustrating user experience, the Observer 80ST simply isn’t a good telescope at any price. With poor views of solar system objects, feeble light grasp for what lies beyond, and a host of construction issues that compromise its usefulness, you’re left with little more than a pretty doorstop.

Analysing Orion Observer 80ST’s Optical Tube

The 80ST is an 80mm f/5 achromatic refractor. Being a cheap fast achromat, the scope suffers from a lot of chromatic aberration, which results in blurry images at high magnifications (especially on the Moon and planets) and obnoxious purple halos around bright objects such as the Moon, planets, and bright stars. The 80ST suffers from quite a bit more chromatic aberration than its predecessor – so much so that it is basically unusable at magnifications of over 50x. You’re not going to be seeing much detail in the cloud belts of Jupiter and Saturn with this scope, nor the Cassini division, nor likely anything at all on Mars besides maybe its polar ice cap.

The 80ST’s lens is not multi-coated unlike most decent telescopes in the modern era. It has a simple, anti-reflection coating (if any at all – Orion claims there is one, but I can’t see any indication of it) which means it suffers a bit of a loss of light gathering ability compared to most other 80mm refractors and has more glare problems.

These glare problems are not helped by the horribly bad plastic focuser on the telescope. Nothing about it is metal except the screws. The drawtube is chrome-painted plastic, and the shiny chrome protrudes into the tube, causing all sorts of stray reflections. The inside is painted more of a dark gray than black and as a result, allows for even more light to scatter. The drawtube is long enough that it also seems to actually clip part of the telescope’s light cone and induce vignetting, reducing its effective aperture and thus the telescope’s resolution and light-gathering ability. If this all wasn’t bad enough, the rack on the focuser is incredibly prone to stripping and damage, and sags under the weight of the eyepiece and diagonal, wobbling as you rack it in and out to focus. It is easily the worst part of the entire telescope.

Rather than using a dovetail, or at least tube rings like almost any decent telescope would use to attach to its mount, the 80ST uses a pair of bolts attached to the tube, which go through two holes on the mount and are fastened with wingnuts. Not only is this incredibly cheap and rather janky in appearance, but the wingnuts are all too easy to lose in the dark.

Reviewing the Accessories

The Observer 80ST comes with a 90-degree mirror star diagonal, a red dot finder, and two Kellner eyepieces – 25mm and 10mm providing 16x and 40x respectively.

The included mirror star diagonal is rather low-quality, and if the scope were actually capable of high magnifications, I’d actually complain about it a lot more. The whole body is plastic, and the mirror does not appear to be optically flat – it caused some astigmatism and other issues when I tested it with some other telescopes. At the low powers that you’re limited to due to the scope’s other issues, however, it’s not really much of an issue. It is still incredibly disappointing even considering the telescope’s rather low price.

The red dot finder included with the Observer is incredibly cheap. It is hard to adjust, you can’t get your eye up close to the reticle, the glass is tinted and makes everything dimmer, and sometimes it just stops working altogether for seemingly no reason. It is very much a cut below the regular “StarPointer” and “EZ Finder II” red dot sights – which are already incredibly cheap and ubiquitous on many beginner telescopes. Thankfully the telescope itself has such a wide field of view at low power that you hardly need the red dot finder, but it’s still a nuisance. The finder is also unfortunately mounted on a very strange, nonstandard bracket that makes it basically impossible to replace without dismantling the telescope, removing the permanently-installed lower portion of the bracket, and likely drilling new holes to accept a standard finderscope shoe.

The included Kellner eyepieces are decent enough for the telescope. With a roughly 50-degree apparent field of view, they won’t be giving the widest fields possible with the telescope – but they’re plenty good for the price. My only gripe is the lack of rubber eyecups, which really help with positioning your eye properly above the lens.

The 80ST also comes with Orion’s MoonMap 260, which is a nice fold-out map showing most of the prominent lunar features that are visible with the telescope in both regular and left-right reversed (as seen in the eyepiece) views. 

The EQ-1B Equatorial Mount

The EQ-1B is a slight variation on the same cheap EQ-1 mount that is supplied with good and bad beginner scopes alike. The main issue with the EQ-1 is that it tends to have more payload shoved on it than its meager frame can actually handle, which is thankfully not the case with the lightweight and tiny 80ST optical tube. The EQ-1B is a little cheaper than the regular EQ-1, however. It seems to use fewer screws to hold the tripod together and more cheap rivets, which are probably more susceptible to wear and damage with time. While it is still plenty solid and works fine, the equatorial motions can be confusing for a beginner, and are completely unnecessary for a telescope that is designed for wide-field views and will not be used at high magnifications anyways. You can fit the mount with a “logic drive” or motor drive made by Celestron or Orion, but this is complete overkill for visual work, and neither the mount nor telescope are good enough for serious astrophotography anyways.

Should I buy a Used Observer 80ST?

The Observer 80ST is more likely to be frustrating than fun to use, so I wouldn’t recommend bothering with it unless you can get it for less than $60 or so.

What can you see with Orion Observer 80ST?

The 80ST isn’t very useful for even moderate magnifications, and as a result, you’re not going to be getting too many exciting views of the Moon and planets. The Moon will show a fair amount of detail, but it’s not very crisp. Jupiter’s moons are visible, but its cloud bands are ill-defined and the Great Red Spot is rather challenging to see. Saturn’s rings are visible, but you won’t be seeing the Cassini Division or any cloud belts, and the smaller moons besides Titan are not visible. Mars is a red fuzzy ball with maybe a hint of the polar ice cap around opposition. Mercury is a smudge, too small to distinguish its phase. Venus is a small gibbous or crescent orb, with a massive purple halo surrounding it due to the scope’s chromatic aberration. And forget Uranus or Neptune – you need at least 80x or so to distinguish them from stars, and the 80ST isn’t capable of such magnification.

Outside the solar system, things are a bit better, but not much. While you can see the Orion Nebula, Andromeda Galaxy, a few other large emission nebulae and bright galaxies, and a fair amount of star clusters, most deep-sky objects are smudges that are often rather dim – and any nearby lights will completely wreck the view thanks to the scope’s glare problems. Additionally, despite being an 80mm refractor, the 80ST somehow shows much dimmer and less impressive views than a 100mm tabletop reflector or 90mm Maksutov-Cassegrain, both of which theoretically have equal or lesser light gathering ability than the 80ST does – a problem I attribute to the scope’s glare/vignetting issues and the low-quality lens coatings. You won’t necessarily see nothing at all, but the views of what you can see are certainly unimpressive, even at the relatively low bar set by a sub-$200 telescope.